Peer review of arts challenge: Your ability to keep to your original plan and time manage is astounding. Although your challenge was very researched based and there wasn't too much scope for evidence-taking your blog is really cogent and the efforts you have taken are clear to see, including a bibliography especially. I enjoyed that you focused on particular women producer (who i'd have otherwise never heard of!) and really delved deep into all aspects of the challenge.
Sunday, 16 February 2014
Peer Review of Arts Challenge-Unit 1
Thank you to Elizabeth (the editor for the short film) for reviewing my arts award.
Peer review of arts challenge: Your ability to keep to your original plan and time manage is astounding. Although your challenge was very researched based and there wasn't too much scope for evidence-taking your blog is really cogent and the efforts you have taken are clear to see, including a bibliography especially. I enjoyed that you focused on particular women producer (who i'd have otherwise never heard of!) and really delved deep into all aspects of the challenge.
Peer review of arts challenge: Your ability to keep to your original plan and time manage is astounding. Although your challenge was very researched based and there wasn't too much scope for evidence-taking your blog is really cogent and the efforts you have taken are clear to see, including a bibliography especially. I enjoyed that you focused on particular women producer (who i'd have otherwise never heard of!) and really delved deep into all aspects of the challenge.
Review Project -Unit 2
I am very pleased with the result of the film I made in my group after seeing it filmed. I think that the edit and the music all tied in very well together. The film ended up being a little shorter than expected by about 20 seconds, but that was not a problem in the slightest. The day I found the most stressful was definitely the editing day, as I found that everybody had opinions, but what we really needed was one person just to get on with it, otherwise there were too many disagreements, so nothing got done. It was also the day that the time pressure got to us the most, as we were quite well prepared for the filming, but we had made very few plans for the editing, therefor we were going in only with the script and a vague idea of what we were doing.
The outcome was however better than anything we expected. This was the general consensus of the group when we reviewed it together on Facebook.
So overall, everyone who posted was happy, focusing on the final outcome over the run up. I have posted asking if there are any comments about specific days, but we will have to wait and see if anyone had anything to day about that, I will update.
When discussing how everyone did in each role, we were all very diplomatic, as well as seemingly less effective at commenting.
Starting with the director:
I would stand by my comment and say you could tell very well that Abdil had done a shot list, even if we did not exactly stick to it, and had everything planned out in his head. On the shoot day he was very efficient, as well as good to listening to other peoples comments. The only criticism would be that we weren't always sure what he was thinking or doing on shoot day when we weren't directly next to him, and it would be good to be kept updated. That is only a small niggle though.
The script writer:
I have to say, he handled our changes of ideas and plot really well, considering we left him with such vague outlines after every meeting. He did pull out aspects of the story and changed our ideas subtly to make the story very much his own. His script was simple and clear, which was what we needed, and well written. Keeping the dialogue minimal was fantastic and made the shoot easier. I did find I needed to massacre his characters frequently though to keep the actor count down.
The cinematographer:
Although very reticent at early stages and didn't really give many initial ideas, his confidence grew in the group until he was quite happy telling us each exactly what he thought. This was very helpful on the shoot day when he gave us many ideas and got really involved. On the editing day he may have tried to get too involved. but backed off by the end to let the editor get on with it.
The editor:
I concur with the group and agree that the editor managed to pull together all the shots very well and create a very professional outcome. I was really impressed. In the run up she suggested plenty of ideas and was very good at pulling out things she had seen that we could reference and think about.
I can honestly say I really enjoyed my experience working with all these people, and would love to work with any of them again if the opportunity arose.
Finally what they said of me. I will actually start by reviewing my self. I think I was fairly organised, but could have done better at reminding people to do things earlier and keep up to date as to what was going on at every point. I think I allowed myself to get out of the loop occasionally and forget what other people didn't know, causing confusion, for example I showed people the prospective setting a little late so the director had to re-evaluate over night.
I also think I could have done better in making sure the script was sent off to places in time and ready in time. I think I could have worked more closely with the script writer to make sure he was not struggling.
Apart from that I think I did OK. I managed to stop the conversation straying too much and arrange an meeting outside the course to get everything in order before the shoot.
Here is what the others thought of me:
I am glad to see that they were all very kind about me.
I hope this is a sufficient review of the entire project. Thanks for sticking through and reading about it. I have had the best of times.
Thursday, 13 February 2014
Research Profile on Future Pathways- Unit 1
This research profile on future pathways may be a bit convoluted as the truth is I am not sure what I want to do. The BFI academy made me decide I would quite like to work in film. It also made me realize that there is a very wide breath of different roles within film making not making my choice any easier.
In the very short term I have applied for the BFI academy craft residential putting producer or production designer as my two choices. Hopefully this will give me more experience so help clarify what I want to be.
Firstly I am going to York University to study History. There is a student TV station there called York TV, which gives you the opportunity to 'get your face on a screen, try out your skills behind a camera, or have a brilliant idea for a show'. The station won the Best Technical Award for a student TV in 2013, which seems quite good to me, and they say that people of any experience can get involved.
There is also the Asthetica film festival in York, which another University in York is involved in, but I see no reason why I couldn't email to see if there was any opportunity to help out or things like that.
There is also a more minor film making society that aims to produce short films. That would also be something to get involved with. As well as this there is the opportunity to get involved in Drama Societies, backstage hopefully.
After University I will have to focus on what I want to do next, which is scary. As I have taken an Art Foundation, I could potentially get into film through going on to take some sort of art course and specialize in Film making. Most schools of art, such as Glasgow, seem to offer going down the art film root. This is a possibility, but may be too expensive, as it would be nearly completely starting university again.
If I do want to continue with university education, I could apply to the National Film and Theater School to do a diploma or a masters. They often take people who already have some experience, and often who already have a degree, but wish to learn more. I would have to build up more of a portfolio of work while studying history to apply. There I could study anything from Directing animation to Screenwriting, though I may focus more on the producing and production design courses.
I could choose to study further abroad, such as in America, which has may different film courses such as in New York, however this would work out so expensive it is quite an unrealistic expectation.
If I leave university after doing history and decide I want to go straight out there, I can apply too apprenticeships, perhaps at a TV station such as ITV or the BBC. With that though I would have to stay on the ball and keep checking what come up.
Furthermore I could attempt to throw myself straight into a job at somewhere, probably attempting to get a fairly low down job and working my way up. This is how Alison Owen seemed to manage to get into producing. Otherwise I could try and succeed by becoming particularly skilled in one department of film making while at University, then use the many times mentioned 'transferable skills' I should get from studying history to try and get more work in the department I specialize in.
I feel quite unsure about this as I am wary of committing myself and saying that THIS THING is what I want to to. Overall I think in the immediate future I should just try and get involved as much as possible in film making opportunities around me to get a better idea of where I want to go in the future. I can do this by checking the South Yorkshire Filmmakers Network to see if opportunities jump up, and by continuing to explore film making in my own time with friends or animation in a group or on my own.
Bibliography
http://ystv.co.uk/about/
http://nftsfilm-tv.ac.uk/our-courses/masters
http://www.yusu.org/activities/societies/946
http://www.gsa.ac.uk/
http://www.digital-apprentice.co.uk/events/
http://www.itvjobs.com/working-here/apprenticeships/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/careers/trainee-schemes/apprenticeships
http://www.nyfa.edu/g-landing/filmmaking.php?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&Keyword=film%20school&Ad=25830828844&utm_content=type&Campaign=FilmSchool(USAOnly)New-FilmSchool&gclid=CIyKitb3yLwCFWfLtAodADgA_w
https://www.syfn.org/
In the very short term I have applied for the BFI academy craft residential putting producer or production designer as my two choices. Hopefully this will give me more experience so help clarify what I want to be.

There is also the Asthetica film festival in York, which another University in York is involved in, but I see no reason why I couldn't email to see if there was any opportunity to help out or things like that.
There is also a more minor film making society that aims to produce short films. That would also be something to get involved with. As well as this there is the opportunity to get involved in Drama Societies, backstage hopefully.

If I do want to continue with university education, I could apply to the National Film and Theater School to do a diploma or a masters. They often take people who already have some experience, and often who already have a degree, but wish to learn more. I would have to build up more of a portfolio of work while studying history to apply. There I could study anything from Directing animation to Screenwriting, though I may focus more on the producing and production design courses.
I could choose to study further abroad, such as in America, which has may different film courses such as in New York, however this would work out so expensive it is quite an unrealistic expectation.
If I leave university after doing history and decide I want to go straight out there, I can apply too apprenticeships, perhaps at a TV station such as ITV or the BBC. With that though I would have to stay on the ball and keep checking what come up.
Furthermore I could attempt to throw myself straight into a job at somewhere, probably attempting to get a fairly low down job and working my way up. This is how Alison Owen seemed to manage to get into producing. Otherwise I could try and succeed by becoming particularly skilled in one department of film making while at University, then use the many times mentioned 'transferable skills' I should get from studying history to try and get more work in the department I specialize in.
I feel quite unsure about this as I am wary of committing myself and saying that THIS THING is what I want to to. Overall I think in the immediate future I should just try and get involved as much as possible in film making opportunities around me to get a better idea of where I want to go in the future. I can do this by checking the South Yorkshire Filmmakers Network to see if opportunities jump up, and by continuing to explore film making in my own time with friends or animation in a group or on my own.
Bibliography
http://ystv.co.uk/about/
http://nftsfilm-tv.ac.uk/our-courses/masters
http://www.yusu.org/activities/societies/946
http://www.gsa.ac.uk/
http://www.digital-apprentice.co.uk/events/
http://www.itvjobs.com/working-here/apprenticeships/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/careers/trainee-schemes/apprenticeships
http://www.nyfa.edu/g-landing/filmmaking.php?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&Keyword=film%20school&Ad=25830828844&utm_content=type&Campaign=FilmSchool(USAOnly)New-FilmSchool&gclid=CIyKitb3yLwCFWfLtAodADgA_w
https://www.syfn.org/
Wednesday, 29 January 2014
Review of Arts Challenge- Unit 1
Overall I have found the research a lot harder and more time consuming than expected. I consistently went over the time limits I imposed on each research section meaning i spent closer to 16 hours doing the challenge rather than the originally planned 13. This made me realize I did not plan times very effectively and I need to not try and cram in an unmanageable amount into each working session as it makes the work feel harder.
The research on producers in Film, Theater and Music got consistently easier as time went on, as I found that I got very similar information over and over again making it easier to do my research. I also fell into a pattern of how I researched, which made it easier. I found it very interesting how the different fields varied as well. It make me think about which field I would like to work in (mainly film and theater). I found that the initial section of finding out about different types of producers went better than the section zooming in on specific producers as I did not have to make a little informed choice about which producers to choose. It was also more easy to see what a producer does rather than evaluate which is best.
The research on producers really frustrated me at first. I found that my first list of looking at producers consisted all of white men, which really bored me. I changed the style of my research in an attempt to get more diversity for the next session, but found it didn't change the landscape much, which frustrated me more. The lack of success I met meant I had to change my plan significantly so it was less of an unmanageable task. Looking at just the 2 producers made me happiest as I could engineer it to be two women, the gender I hadn't looked at yet, though unfortunately it wasn't very multicultural. I liked looking at the variety of ways people had managed to make it into producing, though I would have been interested in finding out more about the early life of one of my female producers, but it appears she keeps the information under tight wraps.
Overall I have enjoyed my research on producers and it has greatly informed me on what they actually do, something I had no knowledge on when I started the BFI academy course. It made me consider it as a possible path. It was also nice looking at success stories. I may like to go away and look a little bit at failures at producing to see their career path and why it all went wrong.
The research on producers in Film, Theater and Music got consistently easier as time went on, as I found that I got very similar information over and over again making it easier to do my research. I also fell into a pattern of how I researched, which made it easier. I found it very interesting how the different fields varied as well. It make me think about which field I would like to work in (mainly film and theater). I found that the initial section of finding out about different types of producers went better than the section zooming in on specific producers as I did not have to make a little informed choice about which producers to choose. It was also more easy to see what a producer does rather than evaluate which is best.
The research on producers really frustrated me at first. I found that my first list of looking at producers consisted all of white men, which really bored me. I changed the style of my research in an attempt to get more diversity for the next session, but found it didn't change the landscape much, which frustrated me more. The lack of success I met meant I had to change my plan significantly so it was less of an unmanageable task. Looking at just the 2 producers made me happiest as I could engineer it to be two women, the gender I hadn't looked at yet, though unfortunately it wasn't very multicultural. I liked looking at the variety of ways people had managed to make it into producing, though I would have been interested in finding out more about the early life of one of my female producers, but it appears she keeps the information under tight wraps.
Overall I have enjoyed my research on producers and it has greatly informed me on what they actually do, something I had no knowledge on when I started the BFI academy course. It made me consider it as a possible path. It was also nice looking at success stories. I may like to go away and look a little bit at failures at producing to see their career path and why it all went wrong.
Friday, 10 January 2014
Two Producers- Unit 1
I have been looking up two producers. I decided to look up two women as I haven't yet mentioned any female producers. They are also both British. Interestingly, one it was really hard to find out anything personal about like where she was born, and the other it was mostly personal. I chose these two as they have both done films I have enjoyed. These are my notes.
Park says she wrote to a comedy company called ComicStrip until they let her join in 1989. Once in she swept the floor and worked her way up to be production manager while the company shot short comedy films for Channel 4. In June 1995 she left to found Big Talk Productions (website http://www.bigtalkproductions.com/), where she continued working with Channel 4. They teamed her up with director Edgar Wright. Together they made the popular T.V series 'Spaced'. A multi-tasker, Park was working on several T.V projects when Edgar Wright started trying to push forward a film idea called 'Shaun of the Dead', so she left the other projects to work on financing the film project full time. After a time Working Title agreed to finance the project. Park formed alliances with them and they still work together. 'Shaun of the Dead' (website http://www.focusfeatures.com/shaun_of_the_dead) was released in 2004 and became her and Wrights break through piece. Park went on to produce the entire Cornetto Trilogy with Wright, Pegg and Frost as well as breaking into the American market to produce 'Scott Pilgrim vs. the World' (website http://www.universalstudiosentertainment.com/scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/).
Her work has won the audience award at SXSW festival and she was named one to watch by Varity magazine in 2005 and won Producer of the year in 2010 at the Women in Film and Television awards. Big Talk productions remains a action/ horror/ comedy production company, but pushed the boat out a bit in 2013 when they did a psychological thriller.
Owen started out reading English Literature at University College London. She volunteered on student films at the National Film School to gain experience then used the 'Music Video boom' to become a music video producer for MTV. She went on to work for limelight film and video, where agents heard she was making films and sent her 'doss' scripts. She impressed them by giving feedback on them all.
At a short film festival Owen saw a film which she liked and rang up the creators agent and got in contact to create her first feature film, 'Hear my Song' 1991. She went on to create Ruby Film and Television (website http://www.rubyfilms.co.uk/ which works with ITV in production and distribution and produced the BAFTA winning film 'Elizabeth' (1998) (website http://www.universalstudiosentertainment.com/elizabeth-the-golden-age/). She has gone on to produce many films and T.V films. Most recently she produced 'Saving Mr Banks' (2013) (Website http://movies.disney.com/saving-mr-banks) which she says came about after deciding to do an Australian-British co-production.
Nira Park
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Nira Park |
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Big talk productions logo |
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'Spaced' which ran from 1999-2001 |
Alison Owen
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Alison Owen |
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Ruby Film and Television logo |
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Jane Eyre 2011, produced by Ruby Film and Television |
These are my two producers. It took me a long time to find the information on Nira Park as she seems to mainly only talk about the project she is currently doing, and never mentions anything like if she went to university. I cant even find out how old she was when she started at ComicStrip. Overall I have really enjoyed learning about these two producers. They seem to differ from a lot of producers I have already looked at in that they have never been actors or directors. They both worked their way up to being film producers through working in T.V and meeting the right people. I really enjoyed reading about both of them.
Bibliography
Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom- Review
Director-Justin Chadwick
2013
Following Nelson Mandala's biography, the film follows Mandala from being a promising young lawyer to becoming a 'terrorist' to prison through to becoming president.
This was without a doubt an effecting film. It made me think about how South Africa only really stopped apartheid the year before I was born. However I think my mum, who I went to see this with got quite a bit more out of it than me. I knew the basics of Mandela's life like most people, whereas my mum lived at the time and took interest. Unfortunately, though a good film, this meant that a large proportion of the film seemed quite confusing to me. 10 years could be summed up in a couple of minutes, big events, personal and political were only skated over. I didn't find out what the group that Mandela is recruited to at the start was until very close to the end.
I think that the film was trying to cover so much information, it didn't bother explaining many things which is all good and well for those who know quite a bit about Nelson Mandela, but those who know less could be left a bit in the dark. This film celebrates a great mans life rather than informs the viewer about it.
Another symptom of the attempt to rush through so many important events was that the camera seemed to zoom around at an incredible speed. Every cut and scene seemed to be incredibly short, the bear minimum that got the point across.
This is not to say it didn't interest me. I was captivated, and needed to use all my mental energy to keep up, so I certainly wasn't wandering. The performances were all fantastic and sympathetic. It was lovely to watch. There were no dud moments as far as I am aware.
I think possibly something like a T.V series exploring Mandela's life may have been more informative, as there were a lot of facts I wanted to know, like who was the man who was arrested with Mandela who was obviously considered white? The film certainly whet my appetite to find out more.
Overall I really enjoyed the film, I just didn't manage to glean as much information as to what was actually going on. I feel the film only scraped the surface. However that is fair enough considering how much they had to cover in such a short time.
2013
Following Nelson Mandala's biography, the film follows Mandala from being a promising young lawyer to becoming a 'terrorist' to prison through to becoming president.
This was without a doubt an effecting film. It made me think about how South Africa only really stopped apartheid the year before I was born. However I think my mum, who I went to see this with got quite a bit more out of it than me. I knew the basics of Mandela's life like most people, whereas my mum lived at the time and took interest. Unfortunately, though a good film, this meant that a large proportion of the film seemed quite confusing to me. 10 years could be summed up in a couple of minutes, big events, personal and political were only skated over. I didn't find out what the group that Mandela is recruited to at the start was until very close to the end.
I think that the film was trying to cover so much information, it didn't bother explaining many things which is all good and well for those who know quite a bit about Nelson Mandela, but those who know less could be left a bit in the dark. This film celebrates a great mans life rather than informs the viewer about it.
Another symptom of the attempt to rush through so many important events was that the camera seemed to zoom around at an incredible speed. Every cut and scene seemed to be incredibly short, the bear minimum that got the point across.
This is not to say it didn't interest me. I was captivated, and needed to use all my mental energy to keep up, so I certainly wasn't wandering. The performances were all fantastic and sympathetic. It was lovely to watch. There were no dud moments as far as I am aware.
I think possibly something like a T.V series exploring Mandela's life may have been more informative, as there were a lot of facts I wanted to know, like who was the man who was arrested with Mandela who was obviously considered white? The film certainly whet my appetite to find out more.
Overall I really enjoyed the film, I just didn't manage to glean as much information as to what was actually going on. I feel the film only scraped the surface. However that is fair enough considering how much they had to cover in such a short time.
A Producer from 6 Continents- Unit 1
After the difficulties of yesterday, this turned out too be a much more manageable task. First I quickly realized that Antarctica don't really have a film industry, so it would be difficult to find an antarctic producer. I also found out that Oceania and Australia are really tied together in film and much more. So that puts us on 6 producers. The initial stage of finding one producer that is worth researching was the first difficulty, but I think it got easier. Here are my notes.
So here are the people I found.
Africa

Asia

North America

South America


Australia was quick off the mark in creating film. It boomed in the 1910's only to decline in the 1920's. It slowly built itself up, but not back to the same level, finding it hard to compete with American film, as most English speaking countries do. Many of its stars such as Cate Blanchett defect to Hollywood. One producer is Antony I. Ginnane. He stated out studying law, then set up a small distribution company. He is most well known for his art house films. He attended Cannes with 'High Tide' in 1987.
Europe

So these are some Producers from around the world. I notice the domination of white men again, but not exclusively this time. I may have to work on getting a female producer into this blog. As per the trend, this took me longer than expected (by about half an hour) but I found it less stressful than last time because my aim was more precise, so it was easier to look when I knew what I was looking for. I think next time I am going to zoom in on the lives of two producers, and hopefully one of them will be female. I will probably choose two British producers.
Thank you for reading.
Bibliography
Thursday, 9 January 2014
Some Top Producers- Unit 1
This was unexpectedly the most difficult research I have done so far. I was envisaging a top 10 scoring system with the pluses and minuses of each producer etched out and their success sitting with their box office hits. However this was not to be. Firstly, how do you rate the top producers? By how much they are worth? In that case money from different pies contaminates evidence. The most famous producer? But how famous someone is doesn't necessarily reflect how effective they were at producing films. The highest grossing producer? But that is weighed towards those making blockbusters and knocks out older producers who may have made more of we made all money worth the same as it used to be. Google suggested these most searched people were who I wanted:
Although a list of prominent people, I have to admit people like Brad Pitt, who produced, but were more known for other things, were not who I was after.
I couldn't think of what to do, so I googled other peoples lists to get an idea of what they thought. I was attempting to look world wide, and failed at that miserably. What I managed to find was a lot of white American men who hog the tables. This was the resulting mess.
To try and narrow my search, I firstly decided to only count those who produced films, giving executive producers less weight than those with producer next to their name. I then stared at a massive list of names. I tried looking into them one by one in more detail, but there were just too many. In a feeling of complete hopelessness I went through the lists and found those mentioned three times or more and compiled them into a list. Unsurprisingly, the list was made up of white American men. I could go on a rant about this, but that would be unproductive.
I downgraded my goals, and made the task ahead manageable. I am going to create a list of 5 American producers of note. These people may or may not be the 'top' producers, but they have contributed enough to western film enough for me to feel they can be a little top 5.
Firstly lets start with Steven Spielberg.

Next lets talk about Don Simpson.

Simpsons business partner Jerry Bruckheimer also makes it onto the list.

Also worth a mention is Stanley Kubrick.

Last but not least I want to talk about Walt Disney.

As promised, 5 very important producers that all turn out to be white american men. Researching this was the hardest thing I have tried to do in two hours. In fact it ended up taking me three. The lack of diversity in mu producers annoys me. But then again I have judged by Hollywood standards. I propose I change my Action plan a little, and spend the next two hours looking for some top producers from each continent, and try and shoehorn in some who are not white, american or male. Then in the final two hours I look into two in depth still.
Bibliography
Wednesday, 8 January 2014
La Belle et La BĂȘte- Review
Director- Jean Cocteau
1946
A man whose lost all his riches picks a
rose at an enchanted castle, angering the beast who is the lord. As consequence
he has to give up one of his daughters or return to die. Is daughter Belle goes
in his place, and despite being initially disgusted by the beast, she slowly
warms to him.
This film really made me laugh, but
probably not in the way that was intended. The leads over acted their hearts
out. Every movement Belle made was delightfully over the top and I have rarely
seen as camp a walk as the Beasts. I found neither especially convincing, and
the Beasts beastly voice was naff. I don't approve of the direction as I found
it hammy. All in all the camp-ness of the leads detracted from any romantic
themes for me.
That said, I found the sisters and the
brother of Belle absolutely spot on. Their over the top acting suited their
roles. In fact I could have done with seeing a bit more of them in between the
scenes that tried far too hard to be serious.
The double rolling of the Beast and the
brothers best friend seemed a little odd to me, I don't really understand why
they did that. It didn't make me like the beast, as I disliked the brothers
friend, so I am unsure to the motive.
I also found the editing really bad in some places. There were a
few scenes one after another which were too short and didn't really say
anything, and a few scenes felt like they came at the wrong time in the story,
for example Belle getting angry at the Beast coming to her room really deserved to be earlier.
Back to the positives however, the sets
and costumes were brilliant. I admit that Belle spent a rather lot of time
being over dressed, but it was lovely to watch. The castle was stupendous and
the family home was that homely fairy tale like image straight from a book. I
loved the hands and moving faces in the beasts home, they definitely added a
sense of magic (though I am never quite sure why Belle didn't try and
communicate with them, I certainly would have something to say to a door that
decided to inform me as to where I was).
The cinematography was also gorgeous.
There were some lovely moments with flowing curtains and people walking into
the camera.
Overall, it was a nice thing to see in the
cinema. It reminded me of going to watch a panto more than a fairy tale
picture, but I may have been spoiled by Disney. You can certainly tell that
Cocteau was a surrealist with the likable quirks in the scenes, but I would say
that there was some badly over the top acting and dodgy editing which
prevented it from being added to my classics list.
It was good fun to go and watch, but not a favorite.
Evaluation: Film, Theater and Music producers and directors.- Unit 1
So I am now half way though my 12 hours of research on producers and I am taking this moment to sum up my findings on the different jobs and I am going to compare the different types of producer and director jobs. (Better mention that the 'producer' role is often split up in Film and Theater)
Quick summary's:
Film Producer- Works from the start of the project in getting the budget and the script together, hiring the cast and crew, schedules the shooting, editing and marketing. Has the last word on decisions.
Film Director- Hired by the producer. Controls the artistic and dramatic aspects of the film. Chooses cast. Is the group leader and guides the cast and crew in creating film. Often helps in editing.
Theater Producer- Selects, finances and controls development of play. Schedules, casts and chooses crew and marketing team. Oversees ticket prices and seating. Has the 'bible' script containing cues and stage directions. Stays to oversee for length of production.
Theater Director- Oversees the creative side. Hired by the producer and unifies the artistic look of the play, the sound and the acting. Directs actors. Job considered done on opening night.
Music Producer- Normally deals in records. Is the project manager, choosing the artist and helping with song development and choice. Often helps with post production editing.
Music Director- Pulls together all the aspects of a live production, choosing the music, scheduling, rehearsing and conducting.
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From reading that you could say that all the directors and producers have similar roles to each other. They all bring an art form to life. Music is perhaps the dark horse as the directing and producing don't really come close to each other.
Production
Firstly looking at production, all three different types of producer are there for most of the project. They all choose the project and oversee its making in a practical sense. However Film and Theater producers are both concerned with amassing the budget and hang around for the marketing and other such aspects, while I could find little evidence of Music producers overseeing the marketing and budget of the project. The Music producers are more primarily involved with the artistic aspects of the project than in Film and Theater where the producer has a more admin heavy role.
Direction
Directors also have a fairly similar role to each other with Music being subtly different. All three are team leaders, overseeing those working on their project. However Film and Theater directors are primarily involved in the purely creative aspects of the project, such as the look, and sew it all together to create an image. Music directors in contrast have to choose things like location that the producer would normally choose.
Both these are generalizations. You will find producers and directors that buck all the trends I have noted.
In Film and Theater (though not in Music as the roles are so separate) there are those who chose to merge the roles very explicitly. This leads to confusion as to what each role is because they are so overlapping. Music is kind to those who research it in this way while Film and Music are cruel.
This pretty much sums up my findings. It took me a shorter time than expected, but not much shorter. Then this is not in much detail, however I already find I am repeating myself. My final statement is that all these roles are ones that bring about the creation of something beautiful in some way or another.
Quick summary's:
Film Producer- Works from the start of the project in getting the budget and the script together, hiring the cast and crew, schedules the shooting, editing and marketing. Has the last word on decisions.
Film Director- Hired by the producer. Controls the artistic and dramatic aspects of the film. Chooses cast. Is the group leader and guides the cast and crew in creating film. Often helps in editing.
Theater Producer- Selects, finances and controls development of play. Schedules, casts and chooses crew and marketing team. Oversees ticket prices and seating. Has the 'bible' script containing cues and stage directions. Stays to oversee for length of production.
Theater Director- Oversees the creative side. Hired by the producer and unifies the artistic look of the play, the sound and the acting. Directs actors. Job considered done on opening night.
Music Producer- Normally deals in records. Is the project manager, choosing the artist and helping with song development and choice. Often helps with post production editing.
Music Director- Pulls together all the aspects of a live production, choosing the music, scheduling, rehearsing and conducting.
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From reading that you could say that all the directors and producers have similar roles to each other. They all bring an art form to life. Music is perhaps the dark horse as the directing and producing don't really come close to each other.
Production
Firstly looking at production, all three different types of producer are there for most of the project. They all choose the project and oversee its making in a practical sense. However Film and Theater producers are both concerned with amassing the budget and hang around for the marketing and other such aspects, while I could find little evidence of Music producers overseeing the marketing and budget of the project. The Music producers are more primarily involved with the artistic aspects of the project than in Film and Theater where the producer has a more admin heavy role.
Direction
Directors also have a fairly similar role to each other with Music being subtly different. All three are team leaders, overseeing those working on their project. However Film and Theater directors are primarily involved in the purely creative aspects of the project, such as the look, and sew it all together to create an image. Music directors in contrast have to choose things like location that the producer would normally choose.
Both these are generalizations. You will find producers and directors that buck all the trends I have noted.
In Film and Theater (though not in Music as the roles are so separate) there are those who chose to merge the roles very explicitly. This leads to confusion as to what each role is because they are so overlapping. Music is kind to those who research it in this way while Film and Music are cruel.
This pretty much sums up my findings. It took me a shorter time than expected, but not much shorter. Then this is not in much detail, however I already find I am repeating myself. My final statement is that all these roles are ones that bring about the creation of something beautiful in some way or another.
The difference between a Music director and a Music producer- Unit 1
This is the final of the three groups I decided to look in to and by far the most easy. I am not a very musical person, in fact when making the short I made in my group, the thought of using music in our film didn't even cross my mind. When it was suggested, and even when I heard the music I still couldn't visualize it. It was only when it was all together I thought that it was a good choice. When watching films 90% of the time I don't even notice the music. I was therefor surprised to learn there was even such a thing as a music director. After that bombshell here is my research.
Music directors and Music producers are so easy to look up as they are so different. There is no confusion between the two roles as there is in film and theater. In fact they may not even cross each others paths. For this reason I can define the two separately. First is
Music Director
This job can actually be a variety of things:
- Director of music in a film/ theater/ t.v production
- Director of music played in a radio station
- Head of music in an institution like a school
- Bandmaster
- Head organist or Choir master
- Someone who makes the creative decisions in a live performance (more commonly known as a conductor in Britain)
Any way this person will often really have to fulfill the roles of principal conductor, Artistic director and Community arts leader as well as sometimes dealing with budget and schedule.
The director would be employed by someone, so would often already have musicians to work with. Once there they would have to do quite a bit. Their timeline would be something like this:
- Choose Music
- Check score availability, may have to rearrange for instruments available
- Interpret score (e.g. pace, balance of instruments and voice etc.)
- Schedule rehearsals and performances
- Consider location and any artistic choices e.g. are you doing it in blacks or costumes
- Lead rehearsals
- Conduct the performance(s)
Now lets consider the other side of the court.
Music Producer
This job appears to be more to do with records. There are probably Music producers that help with Lady Gaga's next extravaganza, but when you say Music producer most people will think you mean a record producer.
Now these people can be divided into two main camps of Executive producer and Creative producer. We are mainly concerned with the more creative producer person. This is because:
Executive producer- Looks at finances
Creative producer- Works in the production of the music
As you can see an Executive producers job is less meaty to talk about.
Anyway moving swiftly on, the producers job is as a bit of a Project Manager. Apparently they can be compared to a film director in their involvement. They guide the making of the record and can often also be musicians themselves so can contribute musically. Their timeline may look something like this:
- Choose artist
- Allocate Budget
- Gather ideas for songs
- Write up some and possibly do scratch recordings, contribute to writing
- Choose best songs
- Coach the artists
- Schedule rehearsals and recordings
- Control the recording
- Supervise or do the post production arranging of song
Engineer- More involved in post production editing and settings
Mentor- Gets others to engineer and spends more time mentoring artists and helping them develop
Golden Ticket- A producer who may have a template for their artists, who seems to be of the habit of propelling them into success
Re mixer- Will remix already produced songs
Musician- May be very involved with writing the songs
Artist- Also performs in song
Visionary- Always trying to create something new
Most producers are probably a mixture of the lot. But this is a general list.
The Difference
This can really be summed up by the words Live and Records. Directors are putting together a live production with a team, producers are developing their artists tracks and putting them together on a CD or what ever music release thing we are going towards.
This was definitely the most easy category as the differences were so clear cut. It took me about 10 minutes short of the full two hours to do this section . I quite enjoyed it, but came up against a lot of terms I didn't really know of. And I found out a lot about how they make music. Its a lot like film and theater really, just trying to get all the elements of an art form together in such a way as it isn't a disaster.
Thank you for reading.
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Friday, 3 January 2014
The differences between a Theater director and a Theater producer- Unit 1
After once again consulting professor Google, these were my results.
These are another two jobs that are whatever you make them. Depending on the scale of production there may be a different amount of people doing the producers job, and the small productions an director can find themselves as the producer. The two jobs can be very interlinked or very separate.
When looking at both roles, it is worth considering whether the producer and director are both independent or attached to a particular theater or company. This can significantly change what they need to do, for example a producer who is attached to a theater doesn't need to hunt around for ticket sellers and such like as there is a good chance they are all ready attached to the theater as well.
There are also differences in roles depending on what kind of production is being put on. A small touring company may find that their producer is very much part of the crew, where as a big west end production may find that their producer is mainly an investor and their are actually different administrative roles with which they come face to face.
Let us define them both roughly.
Theater Producer- They can find the play and possibly where it would be staged, negotiate the rights and other legal issues, hire the director and the production team, market the show, set the schedule, overlooks the production team to make sure they are meeting the directors vision, find the materials needed for the production such as wigs and props, hire the in house staff such as the ticket sellers, once the show is running replace things that wear out and take care of contracts.
Theater Director- Works with the writer on the script, interpreters the script, researches relevant information, considers physical restraints while working with creative and production teams, ties together all the different ideas in the production to create an overall piece.
There are different styles of direction which can in turn influence the type of production. The main styles are the dictator, the negotiator, the creative artist and the conversationalist. A dictator-ish type of direction may work better when the producer is a very separate entity which has a harsh schedule, where as a negotiator really needs a producer who is more flexible and involved.
We can sum up the differences quite broadly as the producers concerns being more practical while the directors are more creative. The producer is also on the project longer, as the director has generally been considered as having done their job after opening night, after which time keeping everything together falls to the stage manager who has the 'bible' which contains the script with all cues and directions.
Let me illustrate their different jobs with parallel timelines.
Producer Director
Develops idea
Raises Money
Budgets, Vague schedule
Hires Director and Production team Possible input into hiring production team
Marketing the show, Schedules rehearsals Works on script, interprets
Casting , Casting
Oversee design team Rehearsals
Previews
Opening night Opening Night
Replace and continue to watch over Production
What you have here is just a possibility, there will be crews with a wildly different template. As you can see the Producer stays with the project much longer, and is the primary diving force. What I find amusing is that marketing is done before casting, which would explain discrepancies between the adverts and the show in some shows.
As you can see int this example from the crucible theater, the marketed photo of the daughter in law in the show of the same name bears distinct differences from the actress who portrayed said daughter in law.
Another difference between the producer and the director is that, as with film, the producer has some financial risk when creating a play. They have got the money that they hope to pay back and have sometimes contributed their own money. They have to have a lot of conviction that the play is going to come off. The director has no such risk, as they will get paid come hell or high tide. The only thing they have at stake is their reputation.
Production Manager- Oversees technical aspects such as materials needed, wardrobe, lighting etc.
House Manager- Works on ticket sales, Ushering of Patrons, maintaining the building within which the play is taking place, looking after the in house staff
Stage Manager- Makes sure directors ideas are carried out. Compiles and looks after the 'bible' script containing all the stage directions and cues
Most productions will have a separate stage manager as it is quite time consuming. The production and house manager sometimes are one person in smaller productions. In really big production even these can have sub divisions.
Overall the producer initiates the project, then makes sure it is carried through in the correct manner, while the director is hired to create the dramatic piece, often overseeing it in its entirety.
I am no expert on this, all has been gleaned from internet research. If there are any mistakes, please do say. I found this easier to research than Film producers and directors differences, mainly because in theater the producer seems to have less potential to be involved in the creative aspects, so the roles are more easily defined. There is still a lot of overlap though.
Thank you for reading.
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